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 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train"

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PostSubject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train"   100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" - Page 8 Icon_minitimeApril 7th 2019, 9:33 pm

It's not valve related. When it was run low on oil for hours it probably wore the cylinder and it now has a little bit of piston slap, causing the knock. That's what the knock sounds like to me anyways.

This would also be why it's burning oil, because the cylinder is worn.


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SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
sending it means not to care about it & run it til death

check the valve guides fist, before buying new rings

it cant be valves, the knock happens every rotation.
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also... how do i tune the main jet on a fully adjustable carb? is there better way then feeling for bog on just dumping the go lever/cluch all the way?
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@RockeyDA Well it's needs to be tuned at full throttle. Problem is when the engine is under load the governor lets in more air which will lean it a tad. The best method I've found is to turn your carb to factory specs, tweak it by feel (I struggle with this), and then check your spark plug after a hard run to see if you're running rich or lean.
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sounds to hard, dont even know how a spark plug will tell me, think ima rig somthg up so i can play with it while driving and do a mountan climb, i can send it full bore trying to get up mountnittany
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Well if it's rich the plug will be wet and sooty. If it's lean the plug will be white and ashy looking. Ideal is somewhere in the middle lol.

Here's a link with a nice chart:
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I think a tan colour indicates a nice clean burn. Black is rich, clean lean.


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well, if i go by color i need to take my fancy shmancy briggs 9$ spark plug out and put a normal one in.
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got the blown up mud train on the trails agin, boi it needs some TLC. need rings and head gasket bad. any one got links?
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really wish i could find a set of rings and new headgasket for this motor.
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NO i dont think therees any other biggs im going to find to take rings from, the cilinder is so big i can put my fist in it.
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SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
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NO i dont think therees any other biggs im going to find to take rings from, the cilinder is so big i can put my fist in it.

WTFH!!
Welp then U can just send it LOL
send it were? small eng shop?
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WTFH!!
Welp then U can just send it LOL
send it were? small eng shop?

Sending stuff means that U just run it til it blows up

so what? are you telling me to not put oil in it and destroy a motor that should be a cheepely saved motor? i mean theres no rod play and the wall looks pretty good, and i was able to save headgasket. if i could just find a new set of rings i would basicly have a new motor.
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i dont think the 16hp briggs is going to have a big fail, i think its just going to keep loseing compression till its not derivable.
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Yeah, but you can damage the cylinder walls beyond repair this way. I think that you might have piston slap, and the longer you run it like that, the worse it gets and it's very expensive to repair.
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well no one has links for rigns, so might be SOL on ever fixing it.
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Check out isavetractors.com, they have a $50 piston kit for the Briggs 320000 engines.


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thats a bit more than im willing to pay for a few metal rings. i thoght new rings would be more like 15$
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