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Age : 25 Join date : 2014-07-22 Points : 4168 Posts : 347 Location : Downers Grove Illinois
| Subject: right angle gearbox? August 16th 2014, 11:43 pm | |
| so i have a old 1969 huffy caprice... and im thinking of putting a 212cc predator "honda clone" engine in it... and right now my axle would work with it... but id lose the stock h shift trans... so i was looking and though "ok" lets put a 3 speed peerless as the rear axle... then i have a 3 speed w/ n+r... but then i noticed... wait i would need to transfer the horizontal to a vertical... cause the peerless has a vertical input... so i was then thinking "ok" lets then get a right angle gearbox in... but they are so expensive!!! and i was reading and it said that if you have a 40hp engine it would then convert it to 32..."but keep in mind i have a 6.5... or will have one soon"...so then would i have a -1.5hp????? or is their any horizontal input transaxles? cause i have not found any.... without having to buy a old sears... or something like that. | |
| | | Moose Established Member
Age : 35 Join date : 2014-01-12 Points : 4948 Posts : 919 Location : Defiance, Ohio
| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 1:21 am | |
| theres the peerless 1200s and 2300s and various ones built by simplicity the simplicities are all high lows though I think | |
| | | Carshowkid Member
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Age : 25 Join date : 2014-07-22 Points : 4168 Posts : 347 Location : Downers Grove Illinois
| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 1:36 am | |
| and moose by any chance do you know what simplicity trans/transaxle? | |
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| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 8:02 am | |
| - Carshowkid wrote:
- it said that if you have a 40hp engine it would then convert it to 32...
Right there... Right there is where you completely lost me. What? | |
| | | richie thomas Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 8:19 am | |
| did not know the gearboxes modified engines, and made them worse, (note to self, stay away from gearboxes with racing engine) | |
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| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 9:19 am | |
| I think he is talking about parasitic draw, from adding a gearbox. I think if you could find a 3 speed like moose had in his massey and mr. modified still has in his simpilcity, that would be perfect for your project. | |
| | | Moose Established Member
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| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 1:07 pm | |
| Not sure I would call it parasitic draw if you have a engine with a speed up gearbox on it something like 1:3 or something itll murder your engine but most are usually 1:1 so if anything you have the friction of internal parts and maybe drag from the bushing/bearings. | |
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| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 7:00 pm | |
| Hears an idea. keep your original transmission. Lock the diff, put a sprocket on each axles, which each have a chain running back to your axle. Run a centrifugal clutch+ chain to your transaxle input (im assuming its a peerless 1200 series), then put a sprocket on each axle where the tires used to be, then run 2 chains back to your live axle. Essentially the only weak spot in this would be your transaxle. The locked diff would get little stress running to a live axle. If im confusing you I can draw a diagram up. | |
| | | jsisti845 Member
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| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 10:36 pm | |
| or just get a new verticle shaft engine and keep the same set up.... | |
| | | Carshowkid Member
Age : 25 Join date : 2014-07-22 Points : 4168 Posts : 347 Location : Downers Grove Illinois
| Subject: Re: right angle gearbox? August 17th 2014, 10:58 pm | |
| Yeah... Thanks for the ideas guys... But me and my dad figured out a way to keep the 212 and the stock axle. Thanks for the help though guys!! | |
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