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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 9th 2014, 7:35 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 9th 2014, 6:27 pm

Well, I started disassembling The red fox. Removed motor... the "heart" (Elizabeth, I'm commin to Join ya honey! This is the BIG ONE!) and the front end and started removing the Dash panel. (the steering wheel and shaft is givin me fits, I'm letting it soak up some WD40 overnight) Took the old rotten seat off (the pan had rusted completely all around, I just lifted it off.

At some point, the old man next door had added a SS battery box under the seat for the battery.

I found that the clutch pulley was completely rotted through... lucky I'm going with a different set up

I've decided to go with the big Onan 20 hp horizontal shaft opposed, the extra weight and torque of the motor will help with stability on this larger frame, leaf sprung build.

Pics (and hopefully a short vid) forthcoming (Gotta wait till wifey is away from her 'puter to upload) Then I get to try and figure out how to upload video to you tube (it's my first time, so be gentle)

Expect these things by mornin
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 9th 2014, 6:39 pm

Cool a truck
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 12:57 pm

Well, here's the vid and pics I promised.



Red lost hid nose and heart

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There's a LITTLE bit of deterioration on that pulley I think...

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the heartless mess

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that poor sad 12 HP... it runs, but the starter is burnt at the leads, and it burns more oil than gas

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Wont be much of an update today... I'd need a snorkel to work on it... we went from 8 degrees and dry to 60 degrees and pouring rain overnight.
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 1:24 pm

Looking good mang. Are you going to retire or rebuild that motor?
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 1:33 pm

I'll rebuild it The bearings are good, It's just gonna need some valve and ring work. I've had the head off and looked at the bore, it looks good. Like I said, it just needs some lovin

Red is getting the big 20 hp ONAN I have... with all the extra sheetmetal, and the bed on the back, He's gonna need the torque. Since it's gonna be a farm truck, the extra weight of the heavy onan will actually help with stability when the bed is full... The onan's aren't a good choice for a racer, or a mudder because of the weight... but for a puller, or this application, the weight helps
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 2:42 pm

That things really rusty
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 2:47 pm

The pulley? ya think?
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 2:51 pm

The pulley,hood and the frame as well
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 3:45 pm

The mower frame and hood is all surface rust, and I'm keepin it that way if possible. Structurally, it's sound
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 6:53 pm

And just for DOC Sprocket, I'm using a horizontal shaft engine (grin)
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 6:54 pm

Lawren Wimberly wrote:
The mower frame and hood is all surface rust, and I'm keepin it that way if possible. Structurally, it's sound

Nice Patina! I love that, Metal rust differently here. idk why, but I guess it's the lack of sun, so we don't get the "baked" effect.
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 7:12 pm

The hard part is gonna be getting an EVEN coat of rust across the whole thing
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 7:21 pm

Lawren Wimberly wrote:
The hard part is gonna be getting an EVEN coat of rust across the whole thing

Keep watering it, I wonder how it would look polished. Like to polish right on top of the rust. Bet it would look cool.
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 10th 2014, 7:25 pm

after the rusting treatment, ya steel wool it smooth and wax it... leaves a great patina, and it protects against the red rust (that rots away your steel)
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 11th 2014, 3:59 pm

for those who have been askin, here's my you tube channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKH3ydb9mBdrmxiQoHSEaA?feature=watch

I'll be posting all the buildoff vids there
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 2:48 pm

Well guys, after 3 days of torrential rain, I went out to see what HADN'T washed away. I was followed by all of the DUCKS I give about the project  lol! 


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I did a walk around to review what Junk I had that might be useful to this project (remember, the frame get's lengthened AND widened...) I wanna build Red Fox super heavy duty 'cause he's getting used here around the farm as a tractor, tug, runabout, and truck. So, for frame rails, I chose some 4x6 I beam (from guard rail posts)

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A further walk, down past the donkey, goats, dawg, and pigs revealed a donor vehicle sittin in da weeds

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an old 'lectric 3 wheeled ezgo.... frame rusted in half, no batteries... but the rear end looks good... remove that 'lectric motor, mount a pulley....

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course, I'll have to rethink the drivetrain... current drive ideas have the belt horizontal... this pulley would be vertical... I COLD mount a rotor AND a pulley to that input, mount a caliper to the cast iron case... IDEA'S... I'm full of 'em!

the front suspension had 2 coil-overs I can use... They might help the lawnmower blade springs handle the extra weight of that big onan oppy

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I may cut/ scab/ weld some of this rear bumper to Red's rear as well

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sorry for the blurry photo, and I'm not sure if ya can make it out, but the axle's have flanges that bolt to the gearbox. That will make it easy for me to widen the axle... get another long axle (the gearbox aint centered... it has one long and one short axle) and bolt it on the short side.

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the SS battery box I mentioned previously

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and one of my fan's

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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 3:02 pm

Some folks have been askin what tires I'm gonna run... well here is an example... I'll flip two per side for duallies. It should provide the big truck look on this 1/2 size truck.

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If that aint enough, I got plenty of tires to choose from

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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 3:19 pm

You got a good amount of stuff laying around, I like the animals chasin you too.
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 5:55 pm

I think I saw Donald, chasing Dolly, lol

And that will be heavy duty indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 6:44 pm

u preparing for the iceage i see haha never have to much firewood
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 7:07 pm

do you race cars? or does everyone just dump there old tires at your place or what? monster pile of tires haha
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 7:16 pm

Done a lot of racin... but these were collected for building a big duck pond
lotta good tires there though
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2014, 7:18 pm

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u preparing for the iceage i see haha never have to much firewood

That firewood was the walls to my outdoor kitchen for the first year I was here. Spent the first Christmas here in a 7 x 14 camper, with a tin roof covering an outdoor kitchen and dining area
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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 30th 2014, 5:15 pm

Here's some short vids updating the Red Fox Project. One of these days I'll figure out how to edit them together into one vid, till then, bear with me...







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PostSubject: Re: The Red Fox   The Red Fox - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 30th 2014, 5:53 pm

that is ALOT of steel. does that press work, or is it broke? thanks for the shoutout btw. lol
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