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PostSubject: The 5-Minute Diagnostic   The 5-Minute Diagnostic Icon_minitimeMay 23rd 2013, 6:07 am

I wrote this awhile back, and it regarded a push mower. But an engine is an engine, and this may be a helpful example to someone...

I normally wouldn't consider this noteworty (I deal with these situations regularly), but I decided to write a blurb on it, to maybe help out those that are new to engine fault diagnosis. While the answer to this one was simpler than it could have been, it is worth stating that in my experience, 90% of the time, it IS simple.

A co-worker asked me to look at his mower. The back story? Happily mowing along one day a couple weeks back. Engine shut down with a loud bang, and would not restart. Newer Lawn Boy, powered by a Honda GCV160. Nice machine.

I opened the fuel cap- almost full. Fuel valve on. Hey- I've seen stupider stuff happen! Checked the oil- good. Not a low-oil shutdown. Air filter- good. I gave it a couple yanks. Good compression, no fire. Next, I visually inspected the the cable and switch mechanism that shuts the engine down when you let go of the bail. Plenty of travel, switch is activating. Let's get to it! A small shot of ether (starting fluid) into the carb, two quick tugs- nothing. It's starting to look like an ignition issue.

I put my ignition tester inline between the spark plug lead, and the plug itself. Another tug, and I'm watching the tester flash. Interesting. The coil is clearly firing. I removed the spark plug. Damp. Okay, it's fuelling. Plug was good looking overall. The gap checked out at 0.030. Hmm... Coil is firing, plug is damp with fuel. Fishy. Either the timing is waaaay off, or the plug is bad. The timing could be off- the customer said there was a loud bang. Perhaps he hit an object and stopped the blade it it's tracks, shearing the key. Time to narrow it down. with the plug still out, I re-connected the plug lead and held the plug against the cylinder head. Tug... No spark. Mmm-hmmmm....

I walked over to his snowblower and stole the plug out of it. Installed it in the mower, and said, "This is the wrong plug, but it should tell us a story. Tug- VROOOOOM!

I handed the old plug to him and told him to pop by Canadian Tire and buy a match for it. The plug looked great, but would not fire. There's a lesson there.

Let's recap. For an engine to run, you need 4 things: Fuel, Air, Compression, and spark. In addition, it must be timed correctly. I verified Compression with the first couple pulls of the cord. Air? By removing the filter and inspecting, we verified the air. Fuel was partially eliminated as a problem with the ether. If a carb is plugged, ether (or a teaspoon of gas in the carb) will cause the engine to kick. Fuel was confirmed as being present by finding the plug to be damp with fuel. This leaves spark, and potentially, timing. "Spark" was confirmed as far as the coil with the spark tester. With the real-time plug test, we found that spark was indeed missing. Subbing in another plug and starting the engine confirmed timing...

Naturally, there are many things that can go wrong with an engine, that give need to more in-depth tests. An older engine may require an actual compression gauge. One might need to verify valve operation, check the flywheel key, yank the lead off the kill switch. As stated before, my experience is that more often than not, it's a very simple problem with an easy fix. As for that good-looking spark plug? Never assume anything. And as for that BANG!- Ever done a plug chop? When the engine's going full bore and the spark stops, you get a bunch of raw fuel headed for the muffler. Hello, backfire! So go ahead, and try the 5-minute Diagnostic on your next no-start. It literally takes 5 minutes, you don't need to waste an hour pullin' and pullin' and pullin'... Cheers! -Doc
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PostSubject: Re: The 5-Minute Diagnostic   The 5-Minute Diagnostic Icon_minitimeMay 23rd 2013, 7:05 am

Nice write up. If the engine has had any work done to it recently, that can tell a story. The low oil shut off is getting to be pretty common on newer stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: The 5-Minute Diagnostic   The 5-Minute Diagnostic Icon_minitimeMay 23rd 2013, 10:53 am

An easy way to find out if you have a broken head gasket, without removing the head, is to put baby powder around the seal and yank it. Kind of related, but I saw it work.


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