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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Project UTV February 1st 2013, 12:31 pm | |
| I have finally started to fabricate my build after sourcing most of the parts. I am aiming to build a 4wd quad/ tractor/ utility vehicle. Im a carpenter and its going to be used for shipping tools and materials over rough terrain. I was originally going to use a transaxle gearbox to power the front and rear axles but think I will use chains and a torque converter. Here is the start of the front end that I started today. I cannot decide to go for a solid rear axle or have a diff in it. Any thoughts. I have looked at this forum for ages, so its nice to have some content to add. Jonny ![Project UTV Photo-10](https://2img.net/h/i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/newstatesman/photo-10.jpg) ![Project UTV Photo-9](https://2img.net/h/i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/newstatesman/photo-9.jpg) | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 6:26 am | |
| Yep thats the easiest way to build a 4x4 tractor with that setup. Possible setup would be a 700 peerless with a chain drive to a straight axle - can make it articlulate if needed .
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 12:06 pm | |
| Lookin good.
Is that all rear steer parts?l | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 12:55 pm | |
| - muddstir wrote:
- Lookin good.
Is that all rear steer parts?l Thats what it looks like. | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 2:41 pm | |
| Looks good. I would do a soild axle. | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 4:10 pm | |
| Looks really though.
Whats your clearances for your axle? Obviously youre going to need room for a sprocket/ pulley and a disc brake, unless you run with a transaxle which might compromise clearances even more. ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page AdminATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 5:58 pm | |
| The parts UJ steering was bought off ebay for £30 which is about $50. I am going to add a bar underneath to strengthen things up.
I had thought about the clearance issue but just going to have to deal with it.
It's only going to be front wheel steer.
A thought I've been thinking about is setting up a reverse gear somehow.
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 6:02 pm | |
| Are you going to be using a transaxle? Or a transmission? ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page AdminATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 6:05 pm | |
| Going to use a Comet torque converter going to jack shaft that then splits to the front and read axle. | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 2nd 2013, 6:18 pm | |
| Gonna have to have a section of chain go to a double gear ( OO ) if you want some reverse I believe. ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page AdminATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 3rd 2013, 10:26 am | |
| I think I am going to scrap the idea of a reverse gear!
However I am still contemplating having a mid differential. So the set up would be jack shaft from torque converter with 8 toothed sprocket to a 40t sprocket mounted onto the diff housing. On each axle will be a sprocket sending the power to front and rear wheels.
The question I'm pondering now is with the gear ratio of 1:5 going to the mid diff, can I get away with smaller sprockets on the axles to improve ground clearance. The chain and sprockets are just transmitting the power. | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 3rd 2013, 3:53 pm | |
| Depending on what size is coming out of your diff you can go with whatever size you want. I wouldnt go too small though just to ensure you dont get skipping. ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page AdminATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 3rd 2013, 4:17 pm | |
| Sprocket size doesn't affect chains as long as the tension is correct. If you dont have any adjustment a good spring loaded idler will keep chains from jumping teeth. | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 3rd 2013, 4:59 pm | |
| - Chopperhed wrote:
- Sprocket size doesn't affect chains as long as the tension is correct. If you dont have any adjustment a good spring loaded idler will keep chains from jumping teeth.
Are you sure? What about a mountain bicycle then? Id imagine they work the same way, 1 rotation of a 10" sprocket would mean 2 rotations of a 5", wouldnt it? ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page AdminATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 3rd 2013, 5:07 pm | |
| Size doesn't affect chain skipping but it does affect drive ratio.
My post was about skipping not anything to do with ratio.
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| - Chopperhed wrote:
- Size doesn't affect chain skipping but it does affect drive ratio.
My post was about skipping not anything to do with ratio.
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 4th 2013, 7:38 am | |
| The front axle is fixed but I will be able to adjust the central jack shaft and rear axle.
Next problem. I'm using a b and s 11hp vertical shaft engine but want to use a torque converter so going to have to make a ragb. I have a hydro transaxle that I stripped and the diff gears and shaft bearings should be fine for this.
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| Did a bit more work on the front end today. Cut the axles down and started on the steering. the pictures show the chassis flipped upside down ![Project UTV Photo-7](https://2img.net/h/i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/newstatesman/photo-7.jpg) ![Project UTV Photo-8](https://2img.net/h/i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/newstatesman/photo-8.jpg) | |
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| That is looking pretty badass! | |
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| Wow, this looks like it will turn out to be quite the build! | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 5th 2013, 6:00 pm | |
| Can you put a link to the front steering parts Please?
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| Looks pretty sick, are you leaving the UTV unlocked all the way around? | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 5th 2013, 10:19 pm | |
| Looks like there's room in that diff for a spring loaded posi setup. | |
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![Project UTV Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Project UTV February 6th 2013, 5:30 am | |
| What's a posi set up? The rear axle is solid but front will be left open to help with steering.
The central diff will help with tyre scrubbing.
The steering was a lucky eBay find, they were listed as small tractor PTO
Hoping to get the sprockets on this weekend.
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