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| Subject: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 21st 2014, 4:50 am | |
| So the picture on the left is one I found on a website and the one on the right is a modified version of what I plan to do, can you see any problems with it? Thanks My amazing skills in paint | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 21st 2014, 9:04 am | |
| Ackerman is right. Direct steer won't work. Need another connecting spot on your king pin for drag link. Should be a good diagram on here somewhere. | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 21st 2014, 7:22 pm | |
| - CornShuck4CE wrote:
- Doc Sprocket wrote:
- Nope. That's correct.
WHAT DOC IS WRONG. Who the hell said I'm wrong? I do Ackermann on all my steering systems... | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 23rd 2014, 7:23 pm | |
| - Doc Sprocket wrote:
- Thunderdivine wrote:
- They are commenting on the black lines (linkages). All linkages should when possible be 90 degrees on another. That way you get equal throw left and right, right?
[pic] The diagram works fine in the original configuration. Basic go kart stuff. I'm stumped here. I see nothing wrong. What, the first diagram OP drew? There's a lot wrong with that one. Steering backwards, don't get full motion range. | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 23rd 2014, 7:33 pm | |
| I guess that's a matter of perspective. If you're silly enough to take it as a scale technical drawing... Maybe. Maybe not. | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 23rd 2014, 8:10 pm | |
| - Doc Sprocket wrote:
- I guess that's a matter of perspective. If you're silly enough to take it as a scale technical drawing... Maybe. Maybe not.
Wait. What? Im not sure what your referring to. Like, at all lol. | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 24th 2014, 7:13 pm | |
| ok. I polished things a bit, and clarified some stuff. Really, it's the same thing, just interpreted. Anybody? Mine on the left, original on the right. | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 26th 2014, 10:41 am | |
| Okay, finally got some time to post what I think needs to happen. On left, is a simplified version of what Doc posted, what I would call go-kart/ATV steering. Two tie rods connected to one or two pitman arms in the middle. Works great, but usually we have an engine in the way. On the right is what works for front engine mowers. Steering column is not shown, because it is straight up and down for this simple drawing. It uses an extra connection to the spindles to get the steering hooked up. | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 27th 2014, 3:01 pm | |
| I have the steering setup on the left for the massey I absolutely love it it is a really tight setup only thing Id change is the ratio but thats because I have big tires lol | |
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| Subject: Re: Anything Wrong? Ackerman Steering September 27th 2014, 8:09 pm | |
| - kieranruffell wrote:
- Thanks Doc and stretch that was just what I needed, Now I can get on with making it
Fantastic... Good luck! | |
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