[FINALIST] - mrshaft696's The Real Horse [2019 Build-Off Entry]

Stands are fun... but let's keep on topic.  This goes for myself as well. 

I need a set of those. I had a few mower engines on my work bench for months. Leaked oil all over it and bode the bench. 250lbs of engines. Lol Those engine holders work have work great. .ight need to make a few.

pulled this thing out of the garage after no idea how long..... washed all the dust off & scrubbed everything the best I could....

I finished my motor stand last night & almost have the engine back together & ready for testing...

as of today I put the new head on, readjusted the valves a bit and it turned over on carb cleaner.... so I pulled off the carb to see what was in it before I officially run it for a duration... The needle was swollen and the float wouldn't level out, so I threw in a spare....



I am still thinking about how to do my exhaust, has anyone used these type of mufflers, know how loud they are??? RLV mufflers... I want something that is gonna look good.

https://www.bmikarts.com/RLV-Mini-91-Muffler-Silencer-for-Clone_p_36.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMInrOopLur4gIVmkUNCh0KSARSEAQYASABEgI9EPD_BwE

NOICE!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd clearcoat it..

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

NOICE!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd clearcoat it..

Yeah im gonna go the sand and clear coat direction, ive tested it with some 600 on a few spots and it looks good.  Do some bedliner on the foot bard, but I am going to paint the engine with some wheel horse theme. Maybe use carl's tattoo, on the engine cover.

Gonna go with some ag tires. cant decide if im gonna build or buy a muffler/mufflers yet. Gonna do an official test run of the motor tonight.

The motor officially runs, it surges a bit so Im gonna pull the carb again and give it another go before I call it a winner, but it seems to be alright!

NOICE!!!

Sadly the stock muffler destroys the Sound of that Engine!

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

NOICE!!!

Sadly the stock muffler destroys the Sound of that Engine!

Well it wont fit in this application so I am trying to figure out something.... I am thinking about just making a muffler, or using a RLV muffler, those ones they sell for go karts, I linked it above.

mrshaft696 wrote:

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

NOICE!!!

Sadly the stock muffler destroys the Sound of that Engine!

Well it wont fit in this application so I am trying to figure out something.... I am thinking about just making a muffler, or using a RLV muffler, those ones they sell for go karts, I liked it above.

I'd go 4 a Glasspack they're used in Cars or 4 a Motorcycle exhaust

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

mrshaft696 wrote:

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

NOICE!!!

Sadly the stock muffler destroys the Sound of that Engine!

Well it wont fit in this application so I am trying to figure out something.... I am thinking about just making a muffler, or using a RLV muffler, those ones they sell for go karts, I liked it above.

I'd go 4 a Glasspack they're used in Cars or 4 a Motorcycle exhaust

yeah so how would you adapt one to a 1" exhaust pipe? I dont care much about sound, id prefer quiet so I can actually use the machine, the engine will stall if the muffler is off because there is not enough back pressure...

mrshaft696 wrote:

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

mrshaft696 wrote:

Well it wont fit in this application so I am trying to figure out something.... I am thinking about just making a muffler, or using a RLV muffler, those ones they sell for go karts, I liked it above.

I'd go 4 a Glasspack they're used in Cars or 4 a Motorcycle exhaust

yeah so how would you adapt one to a 1" exhaust pipe?  I dont care much about sound, id prefer quiet so I can actually use the machine, the engine will stall if the muffler is off because there is not enough back pressure...

4strokes dont need backpressure!!!!!!!!!!! I had mine running with no exhaust, & with just the headers & with the muffler on & it performed the same all the time

Glasspacks sound like garbage IMO. I've not heard a single good one. Louder is most definitely not better.

You're a long way off from doing an exhaust anyway. This rig have a 600 series peerless? Would be cool too see one doc locked, an 800 has been done and it has the same diff as a 600. How about tires? What are you doing for that. This rig has a lot of potential between the big v twin, peerless, and wheel horse chassis, can't wait to see what you do with it.

RichieRichOverdrive wrote:

Glasspacks sound like garbage IMO. I've not heard a single good one. Louder is most definitely not better.

You're a long way off from doing an exhaust anyway. This rig have a 600 series peerless? Would be cool too see one doc locked, an 800 has been done and it has the same diff as a 600. How about tires? What are you doing for that. This rig has a lot of potential between the big v twin, peerless, and wheel horse chassis, can't wait to see what you do with it.

well im not that far off haha, but I wanna use the machine and have it be reasonable. I either want to hide the exhaust or if it is visible it has to look nice.

I have no idea what transaxle it has or how to find out, it is a big cast iron rear with a big cast iron pulley. It has 3 speeds forward and reverse of course....

The plan is to run AG tires in the rear, I can only fit 23x10.5's without lifting the rear of the machine. I have 8" rims for the front, might do rib tires or ag tires not sure yet.

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

mrshaft696 wrote:

SebastianAlbrecht wrote:

I'd go 4 a Glasspack they're used in Cars or 4 a Motorcycle exhaust

yeah so how would you adapt one to a 1" exhaust pipe?  I dont care much about sound, id prefer quiet so I can actually use the machine, the engine will stall if the muffler is off because there is not enough back pressure...

4strokes dont need backpressure!!!!!!!!!!! I had mine running with no exhaust, & with just the headers & with the muffler on & it performed the same all the time

Oh man can of worms, but any briggs I had with the exhaust off ran like total poop.

I cant get this this to run right, I really thought this was  a valve issue, and have been trying to adjust.... but it just keeps popping and snapping.  

my other problem now is apparently i need a obsolete no longer produced boot seal for my tranny shifter....

Ah, it's one of those vertical shaft Wheel Horse 3-speeds, should've known from the 5 lug hubs, haha. Don't see those ones quite as often.

The seal looks like kind of an oddball deal, wonder if there's any other type of seals that would fit the same?

Not sure what holds the seal in place, but would it be possible to cut out a piece of car tire sidewall and make something with a semi snug fit to jam in place? Might take a bit of experimenting but might not leak too bad if you get it about right. I made a shaft seal for my model submarine that way and it worked a lot better than I expected. I had a 5/8" shaft to go around I think, so a bit bigger maybe but something should work.

Or if that one is too hard, maybe a temporary fix would be to soften it up by soaking it in brake fluid. Not sure how great that would work either but could try it.

What about the boot seal you find on atv tierods? It's a long shot but maybe you can make one of those work

the deestone D405B are 23x10.5-12 6 ply ag tires and run about $60 a piece on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D405B-23X10-50-12-23X10-5-12-Load-6-Ply-Tractor-Tire/333088986717?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D57922%26meid%3D5840c6096e8d4a93baef261efabd1834%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D263835511311%26itm%3D333088986717&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 might be what you're looking for, i put the narrower version, 23x9.5-12 the D405 on my murray and i'm really happy with how they perform

mr.modified wrote:

Not sure what holds the seal in place, but would it be possible to cut out a piece of car tire sidewall and make something with a semi snug fit to jam in place? Might take a bit of experimenting but might not leak too bad if you get it about right. I made a shaft seal for my model submarine that way and it worked a lot better than I expected. I had a 5/8" shaft to go around I think, so a bit bigger maybe but something should work.

Or if that one is too hard, maybe a temporary fix would be to soften it up by soaking it in brake fluid. Not sure how great that would work either but could try it.

Well in my pic i had ripped the rest of the seal off, but it is actually a "BOOT-SEAL" meaning the boot and seal are all combined, so the little ring goes around the shifter
pretty tight, and the actual boot has a bigger ring that plugs into the big hole...


So I think you guys have good ideas, I think i might be able to find a oil seal that fits in the hole, but it would have to be loose around the actual shifter so it can move, then use
a shifter boot or tie rod boot maybe in front of that.... I think tire rubber could work if i could get thick enough of a piece or glue a few pieces together.

RichieRichOverdrive wrote:

What about the boot seal you find on atv tierods? It's a long shot but maybe you can make one of those work

that might work, in combo with a oil seal

I'd just grease the moving parts in there & degrease where it should seal & then flood that spot with RTV Silicone that stuff isnt too stiff when its dried out & the grese will prevent that it sticks to parts U want to move
Thats what I would do!

lot of frustration here with this build, I have been messing with this engine for months, and its not working out so I sold it, im going back to the opposed engine and just cutting the hood.

Very annoyed but I have been thinking hard what I actually want to keep this tractor for and I want to be able to use it to pull stuff around the yard etc., I dont want another 12hp I already have 2 and they are pretty boring... So I am going back to the 16 opposed.

Before you cut. Is it possible to raise the hood?