Simplicity Mouse

Hmm, makes sense that the ring gear could be bad. In your one picture there I can actually see a bad spot:



Whether that's bad enough to strip the gear I'm not sure. Could be other bad spots on the ring gear though.

AllisKidD21 wrote:

Hmm, makes sense that the ring gear could be bad. In your one picture there I can actually see a bad spot:



Whether that's bad enough to strip the gear I'm not sure. Could be other bad spots on the ring gear though.

There are multiple spots that look like that so I assume that would cause the starter teeth to skip & strip.

New motor is in place while i mess with the other one.... pretty sure the ring gear is junk either way i took it out and this one is in its place... just a few more things to hook up before I can try and start it up... I had the motor running a few months ago so I have faith....

So I kind of finally got this thing moving again... I drove it on another maiden voyage and the clutch pulley fell off, and I lost a belt bracket & had to order a new one... but I had it out tonight and so far so good... I just need to install the new brake pads i got and try driving it this weekend and see if it will be reliable.... I am still nervous about the starter gear but we will see... I dont know why they suck so bad....

Nice second run it sounds. Very beautiful scenery!

Summer shot potential there.

I'm no oppy expert but I recall something about how you have to shim the starters out to get proper gear lash.

That's one good looking simplicity

Crazy_Carl wrote:

Summer shot potential there.

I'm no oppy expert but I recall something about how you have to shim the starters out to get proper gear lash.

Its a super fun tractor to drive, goes anywhere on my property...

I did try and observe the engagement and I thought it was kind of "shallow", so if this gear fails I have to try something different.

My next mod for this is I need a class II hitch on the back asap for moving my trash cans and trailers....


I was looking at a wheel horse 1277 automatic drive with a snowblower/mower deck looks allot like yours, not running it was 300 bucks.

You can check the starter gear to flywheel mesh using a piece of notebook paper

I would say it was the damaged ring gear that was causing the teeth to strip, after all the starter gear is only plastic and there is quite a bit of force on it starting an oppy. Good to hear that you got it driving again.

I would say it was the damaged ring gear that was causing the teeth to strip, after all the starter gear is only plastic and there is quite a bit of force on it starting an oppy. Good to hear that you got it driving again.

had to move this over to snowblower duty since I didnt have time to fix the 6216 I have....

I got some chains, had to make a lift rod out of 1/2" steel, I also had to make rear mounts for the pulley carriage & pto lever since it was from a different model simplicity. I had to take the mower lift lever off the 6216 since 5212's do not come with a lift lever, so pretty big pain took me a while to get it all figured out.

Either way it works pretty well now, if only problem im having is that when I loosen the adjustment so the snow blower doesnt spin, it will throw the belt.... If i keep the adjustment on the tighter side, it spins all the time. So for now it spinning all the time.

Nice work.  Sounds like a real pain in the butt job.  I'm thinking you're missing some kind of a belt keeper.  Have you researched any diagrams for the implement to see if you're missing something?

Just had a fat mouse jump out of the blower shroud on the mk2 in the garage. Made me think of this tractor lol

Crazy_Carl wrote:

Nice work.  Sounds like a real pain in the butt job.  I'm thinking you're missing some kind of a belt keeper.  Have you researched any diagrams for the implement to see if you're missing something?

this is the carriage I am using ....


I have everything set up as shown.... I think the design is somewhat flawed since there is no belt keeper on the inside before the double pulleys, so disengaged there is tons of slack in that area. My belt is also worn so sometimes its hard to tell if its inside out or not, im gonna try that first.