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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:25 pm

Yeah he mentioned a 4*4 lifted dynamark
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:26 pm

Darn, gonna have to go 4x6 to win, lol!!!  Or would daulies be better?
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Dualies are pretty rare I think on here .
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:29 pm

How about locked diff, lifted vintage tractor with daulie ITP Mud Lites?
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Would look awesome, but your tranny would be toast
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Yeah I know...But I have some tricks....
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:35 pm

Well I am trying to decide if I want to risk the wrath of admin by being technical with the rules or making a different design for my build off
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:38 pm

Well, MacroMachines made a 4 wheel motorcycle, you could maybe try that except with 3.
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:44 pm

Yeah, but having it with three wheels might upset the build off judges, that's what I was thinking of doing actually. The three wheels in line could have bad stability when moving slow , or I could make some "training wheels" on the side of the two wheeled machine , but that's also playing with fire
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:48 pm

I'm just staying simplish. I think I know how to do daulies with a locked diff and not blow the tranny. Should be freaking unstoppable!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 10:54 pm

That bike would not pass as it would be considered a space frame.


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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 4th 2018, 11:04 pm

Yeah its still a bike for the most part. We are actually doing a lot of changes in regards to aesthetics. Open sheetmetal will end up being constrained to require mower aesthetic.


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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 5th 2018, 5:33 am

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Well I might be a little early but Im actually considering entering this one. any details yet?

Dave 007 will be back again for the 2018 Build off. Had a fantastic time. Don't think about it just go for it, I enjoy a good competition, and the more entry's the better the fun. I have been collecting parts and will be building a project completely different to my Speedster. Cheers and hope we have lots of people enter. Spread the word!
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I’m in and ready for the build, cannot wait!
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 5th 2018, 9:41 am

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That bike would not pass as it would be considered a space frame.



So even if i used a mower frame, it would be considered a space frame? i would be keeping the hood, using the fender just cutting it up a bit, and have two wheels in line for the rear drive unit, and a large dirt bike front end . ( with a lawn mower engine and peerless 700 gearbox) Or is making a bike basically against the rules even tho it says nothing about that?
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 5th 2018, 9:49 am

Doing something like Double W shared above would be a space.  Something like a bike or 3 or 4 wheeler frame.

If your base is a "Mower Frame", or similar defined in rules, it is ok to come off that with say, atv front suspension.  Maybe even something like a rear engine mower/rider with bike steering might even work, but the Admins would have to chime in on that one.


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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 5th 2018, 9:54 am

So have most of the machine being mower based with a little strethening is fine, but having in line tires , even if there is three or more points of contact it is not considered a mower based build? Are the frame rules changing this year too ? I can add all the mower looking ness i want to with body panels from mower.
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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 5th 2018, 10:09 am

To my knowledge "frame rules" have not changed.  They will be a bit more strict on that I have a feeling this year. A couple builds in the past few years have started fine but crossed out of rule spec as far as frame went.  @Doug and Doc will qualify the builds.  I know you are concerned about your build, you may PM Doug what you have as far as frame goes, if you do not want to spill that beans to the group till entry time.  He can clear things up hopefully for you!


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PostSubject: Re: 2018 Build-Off Discussion    2018 Build-Off Discussion  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeJanuary 5th 2018, 4:44 pm

Having just mower parts in the frame wont be a pass. Itll have to take on an appearance similar to a tractor/ mower. Thats nearly impossible with inline wheels.


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Ok, thats helpful. i will start a parts pile and not put any money into it yet until the new rules are released. Mean while i will work on a design that looks more mower-ish.
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I think you should.
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Make a pile of money. Enter that. "Im going to turn this into the best mower build ever".


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Ha!!!! Thats not happening lol



I am putting stuff together tho. There could be a mowercycle in the making!
But doc has his 3813 so say goodbye to first place.
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Well, I'm still thinking of dually mud lites on a locked diff.
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yeah, i am guessing if i had not brought up my idea , the rules would not have been changed to be so specific.
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Trust me, you werent the first one to bring up the idea.

We see all, we hear all. What doesnt get caught one year, gets fixed the next. Thats where the whole "living document" phrase comes from.


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