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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Another craftsman II build December 16th 2015, 6:15 am | |
| Picked up 4 more mowers for free. Two craftsman ii, one with a foote rear and one with a spicer. Both of which have junk motors. Also picked up a bolens badged mtd with good 15hp engine and a yardman with a 22 horse. The 22horse will be going onto the craftsman with Spicer rear. It will be getting a locked trans axle with a set of 22 inch woolybooger rear tires. Foot throttle and some other mods The bolens and craftsman with foote axle will be used for parts. | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
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Age : 26 Join date : 2013-11-13 Points : 5446 Posts : 1311 Location : NW USA
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 16th 2015, 11:25 am | |
| ok cool. I like to have complete control of my engines, so I can give them the abuse they deserve! my opposed twins have no problem with it, though all my singles have died because of my lead foot, most especially briggs ohv. I have yet to acquire a v twin, hopefully they are better than the ohv singles. | |
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LAWN MOWER MUDDER Established Member
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Age : 23 Join date : 2013-04-08 Points : 5209 Posts : 913 Location : Central Pa
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 16th 2015, 2:50 pm | |
| No, no straight pipes. I like to hear what's going on around me. Haven't got that far into the thinking as far as what I plan for exhuast. But I want a muffler | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 16th 2015, 8:39 pm | |
| Tonight I pulled the 15 horse off the craftsman and the trans axle. Ran into a couple issues Broken bolt in the housing. Also one axle just fell out, and the other axle the wheel is seized onto. | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 19th 2015, 7:13 pm | |
| Today i pulled the trans axle apart and replaced the axle shafts with a single solid shaft, i forgot to take.pictures of the process becuase i had a pretty tough time, between bolts breaking off and/or being rounded out, among a ton of other things. But basically did a one piece axle conversion and a doc sprocket weld less locker. https://youtu.be/XJurTvFQqscI decided to use a set of newer wheels that do not run keyways, instead the ha E 2 flat spots in the wheel to match the shaft and are bolted on instead of held via sir clip like the craftsman Ii is. So I ground flat spots and drilled and tapped both ends of new axle. Instead of dismounting my 22-11-8 woolybooger s on 4 lug aluminum wheels i decided to cut the wheel center out of the mower wheels and use it as a hub. Youll have to excuse my ugly torch cuts. Has been probably 5 years since I've used a hand held torch, so my first cut was a bit rough. The second/hub wheel looks a ton better As it turns out the 2 holes in the wheel line up with 2 of the 4 atv bolt holes so I bolted it on and drilled 2 new holes. Test fitting both hubs. Next step is to clean up the torch cuts and paint them. Then I'll be installing some collars with bearing out near the wheel to help support the trans axle and hopefully keep it togather. | |
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Stretch44875 Administrator
Age : 49 Join date : 2012-04-05 Points : 5701 Posts : 959 Location : Mansfield, Ohio
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 20th 2015, 9:10 am | |
| We've snapped the end off the mtd/flat drive axles. But that was after a lot of abuse. 22 tires may be too much for the 3/4 axles.
My tractor is straight piped, same engine, and you've been around it. It's not too loud puttering around, but pretty loud of you get on it. | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 20th 2015, 9:29 am | |
| I almost welded the "hub" on to prevent snapping breaking the end of the axle but then changing the bearing collar I'm putting on would be a pita. | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 20th 2015, 10:29 am | |
| I might drill a 1/4 hole through the axle and hub and volt through it on the inside too | |
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redlinemotorsportts Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 20th 2015, 5:57 pm | |
| Pillow blocks supported to the frame would help too I think. Take the load of chassis and bumps off the aluminum case. | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 24th 2015, 9:31 pm | |
| Moving a little slow because of chrostmas but I was able to get the front tires on the wheels today | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 27th 2015, 6:07 pm | |
| Finally got my 11 year old out in the garage to help with this build. It's her mower so I told her she needs to learn to wrench on it.. Here is her first design and fab. We added pillow caskets to the axle shaft to try to help extend the life of it with a 22hp and 22 inch tires hooked to it. I helped her measure and make the cuts/drill but for the most part it is all hers. I realize there could much better fab work, but this is how kids learn. Swapped the adjustable seat from the yardman on, aswell as the 22hp vtwin, still need to button up the wiring. Also got the 4.80x8 Ag tires up front and the 22s on the rear. Still alot of little things to do before it's test run the 16th, and I also plan to totally redo the steering at some point. | |
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redlinemotorsportts Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 27th 2015, 10:50 pm | |
| Looks good! Sound slike your 11 y/o got jelous of your sweet sears,lol. Plan on welding a brace from pillow bearing to frame? seen people use angle iron at 45-60 degree angle. | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 27th 2015, 10:58 pm | |
| I thought about it but There's only 2 inches from frame to the tire so not alot of room to do it. I am going to revamp the front mounts to make sure they don't pull the bolts which I think is more likely to happen which will twist the housing, I got think the rear mounts will be an issue.
But we will see | |
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redlinemotorsportts Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build December 27th 2015, 11:18 pm | |
| ive seen those mounts bend, causing the bolt to woller out the hole and pop out. What id do is if theres another front drop bracket on the other side, tie them together with angle iron or flat stock. then the mounts wont really spread out, and the bolts have to shear before the brackets bend.
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Creepycrawler Established Member
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
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Timrsnakess Member
Age : 23 Join date : 2014-01-12 Points : 4006 Posts : 31 Location : Westchester,NY
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build January 2nd 2016, 8:49 pm | |
| How hard was it to swap 2nd gen steering into a 1st gen frame I want to so that to my Craftsman II as well | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build January 2nd 2016, 8:56 pm | |
| Took 2 idler pulleys to re route belt, custom built drag link, and some newly drilled holes.
I am terrible about not taking enough pics | |
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Timrsnakess Member
Age : 23 Join date : 2014-01-12 Points : 4006 Posts : 31 Location : Westchester,NY
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redlinemotorsportts Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build January 3rd 2016, 3:44 pm | |
| - Timrsnakess wrote:
- Not too bad, now to find a setup
I have one ill sell yea i got laying around. PM me | |
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donaldcon Member
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-28 Points : 3961 Posts : 401 Location : Roseville, OH
| Subject: Re: Another craftsman II build January 31st 2016, 8:05 pm | |
| Been awhile since ive worked on this. Spent the weekend on it this weekend. I thought I had the belt system worked out and just needed to build the clutch system but it wasn't that simple. I spent all day Saturday designing a clutch had it togather and thought it woukd work. But during random conversation with creepycrawler he mentioned as long as it was on the tension side it should work... Well it wasn't on the tension side. I never even thought about it, I was just trying to make sure the belt cleared everything. Thankfully tom has read red lines build thread where the same thing happened so I had to redo it all today. Creepycrawler came up to assist, after a good whileof trying differant things we found the best thing to do cut the pitman arm of the new gear box and space it down, becuase it was hitting my engine pulley and it allowed us to run the belt with no idlers. Then built a double pulley clutch setup out of various pieces of the 3 parts mowers. Have to go get proper belt still and get transaxle togather and installed, but I think it should work. https://vimeo.com/153714423Also had my daughter work on a gas pedal. I helped cut and weld but just like with the axle mounting I let her do the design ing. She took the throttle cable from the yardman and we mounted in a piece of angle. It's a pretty basic design but it works. I told her she needed a big rest for her foot so it didn't slip off so we took the pedal from the variable speed control of the yardman and mounted it to the frame so it is what's pushing her lever down. Then we added a nice tight spring to the throttle at the engine pull it back | |
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