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cjs1029 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build January 10th 2014, 9:17 pm | |
| wow. just typed a long list of what I did and it just disappeared. but a lots of trial and error and rerunning wire. I got more wiring and stuff to do (stuff that wasn't needed at the time) so if you want you can come tomorrow | |
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willis923 Veteran Member
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richie thomas Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build January 10th 2014, 9:55 pm | |
| - willis923 wrote:
- i may putt up on the quad weather permitting
putt on down here, i need some help gettin some stuff done willis | |
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willis923 Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build January 10th 2014, 10:00 pm | |
| - richie thomas wrote:
- willis923 wrote:
- i may putt up on the quad weather permitting
putt on down here, i need some help gettin some stuff done willis thats gonna be more than a putt.... | |
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richie thomas Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build January 10th 2014, 10:14 pm | |
| - willis923 wrote:
- richie thomas wrote:
- willis923 wrote:
- i may putt up on the quad weather permitting
putt on down here, i need some help gettin some stuff done willis thats gonna be more than a putt.... lol come on man, its only what?....6 states? maybe 7 | |
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willis923 Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build January 10th 2014, 11:40 pm | |
| and only 6, maybe 7 gallons of oil... i doubt that the ol' girl would make it
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cjs1029 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 2nd 2014, 1:13 am | |
| pulley size ideas? I don't want a 1:1 ratio. I want a bigger pulley in the front and a smaller in the back. what are your ideas on size?
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the54 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 2nd 2014, 3:18 am | |
| - cjs1029 wrote:
- pulley size ideas? I don't want a 1:1 ratio. I want a bigger pulley in the front and a smaller in the back. what are your ideas on size?
How fast are you lookin to go? I got two tractors that have a 7inch in the front and a 4inch in the rear. They both do 60KPH. | |
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cjs1029 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 2nd 2014, 3:27 pm | |
| I wanna do about 40-45 in 5th (5 speed peerless) but I want to be able to put it in a lower gear and go mudding. It will probably be road ridden periodically | |
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the54 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 7th 2014, 4:32 am | |
| Ahh I see. The tractors I have set up to go fast have a pretty reasonable slow first gear. Probably equivalent to a regular 3rd gear. One of them I use for a show type tractor just because it has a classic look. Its a 79. The other is a beater I use for rompin its from 83. It eats through the mud. I only usually throw it in 3rd in mud holes but my buddy has done stunts in 4th going full speed into mud holes. It has 5 gears.
Assuming your talking in KPH id go with a stock tranny pulley and a 6 or 7 inch engine pulley. Also a Kevlar belt will eliminate problems. Its good to throw an extra spring on the belt tensioning arm too.
There's programs and formulas to convert tranny gear ratio to engine RPM to tire size out there but figuring it out is complicated. | |
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cjs1029 Member
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the54 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 7th 2014, 10:13 am | |
| - cjs1029 wrote:
- im talking 45 mph (roughly 72 kph)
ohhh ok. The reason I had a 7 inch pulley on my engine was because I couldn't fit any bigger. If you can fit bigger then go ahead! I didn't want to go much smaller then a 4 inch on the tranny to avoid slippage. Maybe a 3.5 would do but that's pushin it. If your really lookin into going faster still, you could run the biggest you can off your engine to a jack shaft and the jack shaft to the tranny. The ratios you would really have to figure out but Id do a 4 inch on the engine side of the jack shaft and the tranny side id to a 5 inch, then the tranny id put a 4 inch. So really your just increasing the overall ratio by an extra inch. Only now you need two belts, two pillow block bearings depending on how you design it, and all the extra money. Would make a killer machine though! It's just cutting it close to how quick first gear is going to put you :/ | |
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camomanusa Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 9th 2014, 9:36 am | |
| Thx. I was thinking about what to do about the steering. I'm thinking about just putting washers next to the gears because the gears slip as it is. Plus it will stiffen the steering too | |
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willis923 Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 10th 2014, 2:36 pm | |
| I think I'll be ok with a steering stabilizer. Thinkin about rigin up a brake on the pulley itself | |
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Lawren Wimberly Established Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 10th 2014, 3:10 pm | |
| unless the brake is attached to the TRANNY pulley, your braking will be limited by belt friction. I.E a brake on the jackshaft pulley locks up, the tires make the belt slip, tires keep moving. | |
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 10th 2014, 4:01 pm | |
| If I did a brake that way, its would be on the tranny pulley. No other way to do it besides the stock one on the side (won't do jack at 45mph. The tires hug the tranny too much to put a caliper and rotor on it | |
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cjs1029 Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 10th 2014, 9:50 pm | |
| The big issue with this idea is in the event you accidentally bump the tranny into neutral, or between gears, you will have zero braking. | |
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Lawren Wimberly Established Member
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camomanusa Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 11th 2014, 7:17 am | |
| Nothin new. Lol. I have zero braking now. But it will be a lot worse at 45. I can't think of anywhere to put the brake besides on top | |
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redlinemotorsportts Moderator
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 11th 2014, 8:02 am | |
| - cjs1029 wrote:
- Nothin new. Lol. I have zero braking now. But it will be a lot worse at 45. I can't think of anywhere to put the brake besides on top
you can bolt a kart rotor to the stock transaxle rotor and mount a mechanical caliper on the frame. Simple | |
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crafsmankiller Member
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| Subject: Re: cjs's craftsman build February 11th 2014, 11:27 am | |
| ......or you could fab up a set of friction brakes that rub against the tires, real simple and effective | |
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