|
| Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown | |
|
+5TheCollector MightyRaze Murraymountain Creepycrawler AllisKidD21 9 posters | Author | Message |
---|
AllisKidD21 Moderator
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
1st Place Build-Off 2019
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2019
Age : 25 Join date : 2016-07-10 Points : 8589 Posts : 5190 Location : Ontario Canada
| Subject: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown November 30th 2019, 12:03 am | |
| Hello fellas. So I kinda got the idea to teardown one of these 10hp air-cooled diesels a lot of people are running, and document it in a thread here. Just thought that it'd be handy for some folks to see just what makes these things tick and all, since I don't know if there's much online covering the internal workings. Well anyways, here it is: Nothing fancy, just a 10hp genset engine. I was told it had a cracked piston, which was no doubt caused by a nut entering the combustion chamber at some point, as told by the heavy witness marks on both the cylinder head and piston: Yep, that's not good! A couple hairline cracks visible, you can also see the swirl crater and the recesses for the valves. First thing I wanted to do was pull the side cover, which is no joke because they have 16 bolts holding the thing on: So I went to drain the oil and when I popped the plug nothing came out. But if I pulled the dipstick black diesel oil came gushing out. Well I got most of the oil out, yanked the side cover and found out just maybe why it wasn't draining: Oh yeah, LOL. That's good stuff right there! Sludge in the bottom that like had a gelatinous form and the oil was just sitting on top. Yuck, haha. Well got that cleaned out to some degree, still needs some but it's better than before, haha. It has a single counter-balancer driven by a gear on the flywheel side of the crank: Timing marks on both gears to time the counter-balancer: After that I pulled the rod and piston. The rod is cast iron with bearing inserts: Then I saw the full extent of the damage to the piston: Wow, hahaha. She's definitely had 'er last. It's gonna make a dang good wall hanger though!! But anyway, that's all I got to for tonight. Next I'll probably go into the cam, valve train, injector pump, etc. Just figured I'd put as much info in here as possible. More to come! "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100
Last edited by AllisKidD21 on November 30th 2019, 9:38 am; edited 1 time in total | |
| | | Creepycrawler Established Member
2024 Build-Off Entrant
2024 Build-Off Entrant
Age : 37 Join date : 2013-07-02 Points : 5021 Posts : 731 Location : Logan Ohio
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown November 30th 2019, 7:51 am | |
| thats crazy, I have one of these kicking around supposed to have bad rings wonder if the piston is just cracked? | |
| | | AllisKidD21 Moderator
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
1st Place Build-Off 2019
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2019
Age : 25 Join date : 2016-07-10 Points : 8589 Posts : 5190 Location : Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown November 30th 2019, 9:39 am | |
| Haha, yep. Pretty wild!
Yeah you could be right about that, might be worth investigating. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
| | | Murraymountain Veteran Member
2019 Build-Off Finalist
2019 Build-Off Finalist
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2022 Build-Off Entrant
2022 Build-Off Entrant
Join date : 2019-02-04 Points : 4434 Posts : 2178 Location : North Carolina
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown November 30th 2019, 9:45 am | |
| Dang, that's not cracked, that's what you call shattered! Must of been one heck of a nut... | |
| | | AllisKidD21 Moderator
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
1st Place Build-Off 2019
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2019
Age : 25 Join date : 2016-07-10 Points : 8589 Posts : 5190 Location : Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown November 30th 2019, 9:47 am | |
| Well just think of the compression on a diesel though, that nut was in one seriously tight space! "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
| | | MightyRaze Administrator
2017 Build-Off Finalist
2017 Build-Off Finalist
2018 Build-Off Top 3 Winner
2018 Build-Off Top 3 Winner
2019 Build-Off Top 3 Winner
2019 Build-Off Top 3 Winner
2021 Winner of Winners
2021 Winner of Winners
1st Place Build-Off 2022
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2022
10,000 POSTS!
10,000 POSTS!
2024 Build-Off Entrant
2024 Build-Off Entrant
Age : 49 Join date : 2016-09-06 Points : 15678 Posts : 10988 Location : Oklahoma
| | | | TheCollector Member
2015 Build-Off Entrant
2015 Build-Off Entrant
2018 Build-Off Entrant
2018 Build-Off Entrant
2019 Build-Off Finalist
2019 Build-Off Finalist
Age : 38 Join date : 2015-04-22 Points : 3738 Posts : 194 Location : Bedias. Tx
| | | | Double W Cross Ranch Veteran Member
2018 Build-Off Finalist
2018 Build-Off Finalist
Age : 20 Join date : 2017-06-09 Points : 5494 Posts : 2640 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 1st 2019, 8:18 am | |
| Maybe that'll work in my yanmar, wanna trade it for a lightly used K181 con rod? Lol. Pretty crazy to see that. | |
| | | AllisKidD21 Moderator
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
1st Place Build-Off 2019
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2019
Age : 25 Join date : 2016-07-10 Points : 8589 Posts : 5190 Location : Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 1st 2019, 9:45 am | |
| Haha, yeah it's pretty crazy. The way everything else looks I imagine I could indeed install a new piston and rings and it's be good to go, but we'll see. I only bought it for parts though so I'm not too concerned. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
| | | AllisKidD21 Moderator
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
1st Place Build-Off 2019
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2019
Age : 25 Join date : 2016-07-10 Points : 8589 Posts : 5190 Location : Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 8th 2019, 11:32 am | |
| Alrighty, got another minute to tinker with this the other day so I figured I'd go over the injector pump and lower valvetrain. Here's the cam and injector pump: Then the tappets and push rods, both of which are the same length. The center lobe on the cam is what controls the injector pump timing, there's a little steel cup that goes on the end of the pump: Closer look at the pump: The the threaded fitting directly on top is for the high pressure line going to the injector. Then the little piece with the needle at the end is the fuel rack, it swings back and forth and controls the amount of fuel going to the injector. Here a a view of where the pump sits in the block: The cast aluminum arm sticking up comes from the governor shaft and goes to the fuel rack. The little ball on the bottom of the fuel rack sits in the governor arm fork. Finally the pump mount from the top: It's held on with three 1/4" studs and nuts, and the shim(s) underneath is added at the factory to get the injector timing right. I believe is you remove a shim it will advance the injector timing. Anyways, I think I'll take the head apart next and get a look at the valves, rockers, ect. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
| | | SteamNut247 Member
Age : 28 Join date : 2016-12-14 Points : 2980 Posts : 70 Location : Duluth Minnesota
| | | | prancstaman Veteran Member
Join date : 2015-02-02 Points : 5098 Posts : 1412 Location : Cleveland,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 21st 2019, 12:10 am | |
| Cool motor, on how it works. Any way that cast iron piston rod can fit into a gas motor? Be cool if it can since a cast iron rod is better then an aluminum rod? | |
| | | AllisKidD21 Moderator
2020 Build-Off Entrant
2020 Build-Off Entrant
1st Place Build-Off 2019
1st Place Build-Off Winner 2019
Age : 25 Join date : 2016-07-10 Points : 8589 Posts : 5190 Location : Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 21st 2019, 12:15 am | |
| - SteamNut247 wrote:
- very nice tear-down, that is crazy on the damaged that is caused.
Thanks. Yeah, it sure wild! - prancstaman wrote:
- Cool motor, on how it works. Any way that cast iron piston rod can fit into a gas motor? Be cool if it can since a cast iron rod is better then an aluminum rod?
We must be the same level of crazy, becuase I've been thinking about trying that as well! LOL I was gonna do some measuring of a K Series rod journal and wrist pin, and see how close we are first. Pretty slim chances it will fit without any maching, but it'd still be cool to try! "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
| | | RichieRichOverdrive Moderator
2018 Build-Off Entrant
2018 Build-Off Entrant
2024 Build-Off Entrant
2024 Build-Off Entrant
Age : 22 Join date : 2016-10-29 Points : 7224 Posts : 4021 Location : Lewisburg, KY
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 22nd 2019, 1:02 am | |
| Break that skirt the rest of the way off with a cold chisel and run it lol. Reduced drag short skirt piston just like that.
Despite being china juenk, that engine sure does look dead simple. Might not be as bad as i thought they were. | |
| | | SteamNut247 Member
Age : 28 Join date : 2016-12-14 Points : 2980 Posts : 70 Location : Duluth Minnesota
| Subject: Re: Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown December 29th 2019, 12:27 pm | |
| - RichieRichOverdrive wrote:
- Break that skirt the rest of the way off with a cold chisel and run it lol. Reduced drag short skirt piston just like that.
Despite being china juenk, that engine sure does look dead simple. Might not be as bad as i thought they were. you can do that but if you look at the crack it actually goes through the piston wrist pin also, so if you do that there would be no place to hold the piston on to the connecting rod, so the engine would not run period. | |
| | | Sponsored content
| | | | | Yanmar L100 Clone Teardown | |
|
Similar topics | |
|
| Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| Who is online? | In total there are 101 users online :: 0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 101 Guests
None
Most users ever online was 412 on January 7th 2023, 7:59 am
|
|