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| I think you could bypass the fuel shut-off entirely if you want. Just un-thread the solenoid and snip the end of the needle off, I've done that before.
Although it does seem odd that you don't appear to have a kill wire. I've never heard of the shut-off solenoid being used as the primary engine kill, but who knows. Maybe you should take you blower shroud off and check out the coil to see if you can find the wire. ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- I think you could bypass the fuel shut-off entirely if you want. Just un-thread the solenoid and snip the end of the needle off, I've done that before.
Although it does seem odd that you don't appear to have a kill wire. I've never heard of the shut-off solenoid being used as the primary engine kill, but who knows. Maybe you should take you blower shroud off and check out the coil to see if you can find the wire. Thanks for the reply! I have had these engines (old 11h did it) backfire when shutting them down. I'm content to wire up the solenoid so long as it is working and serves a function, but if it gives up, that's exactly what i'll do, and most likely leave it like that unless it just bugs me. assuming that i can find wires at the ignition switch that give me what i need and it's not a real chore to hook it up. as far as the kill wire goes, i'll take a look inside and make sure it's not hiding from me. i agree, even with the solenoid it should be there. -Josh | |
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| Black by the dip stick should be the kill wire and the white goes to fuel solenoid. Black from fuel solenoid i bet wraps around and grounds to the engine where the white from solenoid runs towards the dip stick to match the white there. | |
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| - MightyRaze wrote:
- Black by the dip stick should be the kill wire and the white goes to fuel solenoid. Black from fuel solenoid i bet wraps around and grounds to the engine where the white from solenoid runs towards the dip stick to match the white there.
Thanks for the help everyone! Yes, the black wire at the solenoid connector goes right to ground near the solenoid and the kill wire catches back up to the gray (white) as comes through the lower tin and around to the starter/dipstick area, so that pair are: gray = 12v+ to fuel solenoid black = ignition kill wire from coil together in one plug. Now the second plug...from what i'm reading are: red/diode = DC charging wire black = AC charging wire (for lights?) Here's where it gets a little weird. I don't seem to have a regulator with this engine. it seems it should have been bolted to the engine. I guess there could be remote mounted versions, or maybe i don't need one. Some additional advice on that would be much appreciated but i think i have the solenoid and kill wire worked out. all i really need is a 12vdc charging wire since that's all the old engine had. If i could ignore the AC side and avoid needing a regulator, that'd be fine with me. not sure if that's how it works or not. Not sure if there's really much danger of over charging the battery running it (red wire with diode) straight over to the batt... Also thought it'd be worth mentioning that I could probably use some connectors to make the wiring a little cleaner. and maybe a regulator if anyone has one banging around. Thanks, -Josh | |
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| There's usually no regulator on these single cylinders, but the diode in the red wire is what allows it to be DC for charging the battery. So basically there's no need for a regulator/rectifier.
Also you are correct, the black wire is usually there to run headlights. ![](https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/19/98/54/71/separa13.png) "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- There's usually no regulator on these single cylinders, but the diode in the red wire is what allows it to be DC for charging the battery. So basically there's no need for a regulator/rectifier.
Also you are correct, the black wire is usually there to run headlights. awesome thanks! -Josh | |
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