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| Subject: Northern Ohio mud mower February 3rd 2019, 1:00 pm | |
| Hello everyone. New to this group but not new to off-road mower mayhem. I started when I was I think 19 I will be 37 this summer. I've been working on my MTD for 2 years now. Improving it as I go. I am in the middle of a drive train swap and soon a carburetor swap to a mikuni type | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 3rd 2019, 3:59 pm | |
| Welcome to the forum! Neat looking tractor you have there, is that a hood off a newer Troy-Bilt? Feel free to start a thread for it!
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 3rd 2019, 10:33 pm | |
| Love the way that tractor looks, hadn’t even realized it was an older mtd till AK pointed out the newer hood and I looked again and saw it didn’t match the fenders. Just assumed it was a Troy-Bilt mtd | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 4th 2019, 10:50 am | |
| That's a sweet looking tractor! Like the newer hood, nobody uses them because they come with FNRs. Glad to see that, always thought they looked sweet. | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 7:55 am | |
| @AllisKidD21 @AllisKidD21 yes that is a newer Troy-bilt style hood sitting on what's left of a box framed MTD chassis. I do need to start a thread on this thing show everyone what it started out as and how I got here. | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 9:48 am | |
| @Mtdmudmower Single speed with reverse MTD rear axle, has a vari-drive instead of a gear shift in the transmission. They're very weak and lots of people hate them. | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 11:36 am | |
| yeah, FNRs R the biggest junk ever invented for Mowers! I drove my MTD 1 time, and threw the fully working FNR outta the mower and my Bud killed it! A MST is working on tis old place now! | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 12:02 pm | |
| So I should share what I've done to that trans. Stock it is not a good candidate for offroad or increasing speed. It was designed for cutting grass and nothing else. For that matter any open diff trans is not ideal for offroad use either. I dumped the vari drive off of it for a straight belt drive with custom pulley ratio. Locked the diff and rebuilt the internals with better bearings and a higher pressure grease to handle the increased load on everything. Had it clocked at 27mph. Ultimately except for a drive belt nothing has broke on it. And mostly that is due to a lack of using the right belt. Really needs a wrapped kevlar corded belt but getting the length right it was cheaper to use cut poly cord belt so I could try the length variations closest to what I calculated.
Last weekend I busted the belt doing donuts in the snow. Still the original belt I went with after some trials. I am dumping off the current drive train for a cvt clutch going through a right angle box then to a chain driven kart axle. Not happy I'm loosing reverse but ultimately I get a better torque curve and better speed range to the wheels than I had previously. | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 3:38 pm | |
| Wow I always wondered how a pulley swapped FNR would do. Sounds like you found a pretty good pulley ratio for a rally machine and yeah reverse is great to have.
So you're going to bolt a CVT to a vertical shaft motor? A predator clone could cost less than a good quality RAGB. The biggest problem I see is guys putting CVTs on engines that have a much higher horsepower than what the CVT is rated for. This causes the belt to shred and the return of the belt shredding problems. | |
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SebastianAlbrecht Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 3:40 pm | |
| - Crazy_Carl wrote:
- Wow I always wondered how a pulley swapped FNR would do. Sounds like you found a pretty good pulley ratio for a rally machine and yeah reverse is great to have.
So you're going to bolt a CVT to a vertical shaft motor? A predator clone could cost less than a good quality RAGB. The biggest problem I see is guys putting CVTs on engines that have a much higher horsepower than what the CVT is rated for. This causes the belt to shred and the return of the belt shredding problems. What about using a Centrifugal belt clutch? this should have almost the same effect | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 7th 2019, 5:57 pm | |
| Centrifugal clutches don't like to be slipped for very long though, so if you weren't going full bore all the time the clutch would not be very happy. A CVT would work much better for general off-roading as it would have a full range of speeds. Biggest thing would be keeping mud and water out if it. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 8th 2019, 1:07 pm | |
| - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- Centrifugal clutches don't like to be slipped for very long though, so if you weren't going full bore all the time the clutch would not be very happy. A CVT would work much better for general off-roading as it would have a full range of speeds. Biggest thing would be keeping mud and water out if it.
Does make lots of sense!! | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 13th 2019, 3:40 pm | |
| - MightyRaze wrote:
- or less detailed... "F"orward "N"eutral "R"everse.
LOL I actually never put that together. I feel so dumb lol Nice CVT! I like that plan you've got going, why not try to get a right angle box with reverse? Or a right angle box and a GoPowerSports reverse box? | |
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| Subject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower February 18th 2019, 8:10 pm | |
| I have a 90 degree box but it has no forward reverse option. It's rather heavy duty too I want my weak link to be the chain drive not the 90 box. I have kicked around the idea of using a trans type 90 degree in the future though. | |
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