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Looking great AK! Haven't seen a 600 trans orientated in that way before. Makes it simpler to hook up a driveline system for a horizontal engine.
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Thanks fellas, I really appreciate all the positive comments.


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@AllisKidD21 the reason why everything is positive is because there's nothing negative to say about this build lol. We are all impressed so far on your progress.
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Thanks again guys.

I took this picture after I finished working on it for the day:

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That kinda gives an idea of what the final stance is gonna looking like. I think it looks pretty alright so that's what I'm gonna go for.

I'm going to try and get a couple parts this week and see if I can start on the front axle and the drive shaft/clutch setup next.


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@AllisKidD21 you seem like you're a one-month Build-Off kind of guy lol.
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Haha, we'll probably find out pretty soon here that I'm not. lol!


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That thing is looking really awesome. You're just steadily chugging away at this thing, haha. At this rate it'll be done in no time at all!
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Thanks TJ.


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Hey, your topic is already almost 3 pages. LOL

Did you make your decision on the front axle yet? I really liked your idea. It was similar to what I originally had planned for 2017 if I could have gotten the 82 murray quick enough. I'd love to see that come together with your build because I know you could pull it off!


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I had an idea, mount the engine on springs. So when you hit the gas, the engine torques to one side, LOL.
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@prancstaman heck yeah!
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Hillbilly Homer wrote:
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Thanks!

Regarding the front end... I'm definitely using the Ford front axle and widening it, then probabably making some custom spindles for it.

I have a suspension plan in mind as well, but I need a couple parts before I can get started on that. I'd like to at least try widening the axle this weekend though.

Also, nice idea with the engine mount springs. lol!


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What? You're putting suspension on this rig? Never saw that coming. Teehee lol!
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nice, what is your plan for the paint/finish?
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Double W Cross Ranch wrote:
What?  You're putting suspension on this rig?  Never saw that coming.  Teehee  lol!

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mrshaft696 wrote:
nice, what is your plan for the paint/finish?

Thanks. No paint for the body on this one, I'm just gonna finish the clearcoat job on it. I am going to add some artificial patina in a few spots with my airbrush however. Should turn out pretty neat I'm hoping.


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Looking really good! Do you have the parts for the driveline or do you have yet to find them? And also, won't the input pinion be spinning the wrong way?
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I had to really plan it out, but the engine will spin the proper direction to drive the pinion shaft.

Here's what the direction of the pinion shaft needs to be:

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Then the direction the PTO shaft of the engine, which is facing the front of the tractor:

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So once I run a pulley off that shaft and down to another pulley on a shaft running to the transaxle pinion shaft, it should work fine.

Rarbaugh07 has a very similar setup on his Bolens lawn crawler using a 5hp Briggs with a centrifigal clutch and a 5-speed Peerless.


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That trans input shaft should turn clockwise facing it, but ok. I still don't see it working correctly. I haven't seen it in person, so who am I 5o judge eh.

How about some underglow on this thing? Not too crazy, just a little red under the running boards...that stuff is really cheap nowadays yknow.
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Oh wait nevermind, I see how you built it. Trans is facing backwards so it needs to be driven backwards. That didn't occur to me at first haha. Got sort of a reverse input 1200/2300 thing going on there lol.
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Same here those arrows just confused me more lol. The crankshaft faces forward. You're turning a pulley on a driveshaft that runs underneath the motor to the input shaft. That's how your getting the direction right. So all you have to do is add in some pillowblock bearings, a slip yoke, a couple U joints and you'll be all set to build a REAR suspension. This is a build off rig isn't it? might as well go big or go home. You have plenty of time to finish it.
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Didn't really get anything done today unfortunately, just started with some mocking up with the front axle.

This is about how the wheel base should end up looking:

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Doesn't look too bad to me, might move the axle back a slight bit but maybe not.

Decided to cut the axle in half next, to prepare for widening it.

Cut the center pivot and all the braces off first:

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Then locked it into the ol' chopsaw and cut it:

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Didn't get it welded up, but I did some measuring to figure out how much wider it needs to be.

This is about where each wheel needs to go to allow for enough turning motion:

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Needs a 6" piece welded in between both halves to get the width right. Should be fairly straight forward.

So not much progress today, but hopefully I can get some stuff done tomorrow Build  -Off - [FINALIST] - AK's LT-08 Rat Rod Tractor Build [2019 Build-Off Entry] - Page 2 2731072446


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Your stance is looking good.  Also, I actually understood your arrows.  Smile



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Haha, thanks Mighty!


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I think this is what you are saying...

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