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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Looks like you got room for a battery but your dash might become a gas tank  Exclamation 

The battery I can put in the Square hole in the front, and the tank I'll keep it small and cylindrical *HINT* Razz 

Im more eager to see yours properly mocked up, with a chopped hood  cheers 



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what kind and size engine do you plan on using?

a Briggs Vanguard V-Twin 20HP
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To DO's:

V - 1# Decide how I'm gonna do the steering column.
2# Do the steering column.
V - 3# Cut the Hood for the NOS tank, and decide on dash, (Might be a semi dash).
V - 4# Cut the hood hinges and modify them, so they don't hit the engine.
5# Make a Custom grill, and cut the front of the frame to fit the grill and Oil Cooler.
6# Weld up some light holders.
7# Cut and flare the rearfender, and weld it.
8# Make mounts for the rearfender, and make the needed hole for the Peerless 700 (if any).
9# Make a hatch for the 700 location, rivets?
10# Receive the 40T sprocket so i can mount the Peerless 700.  Neutral
11# Bolt the engine down and the rest of the drivetrain, to see if there's room for a "normal" clutch and find the best location for a tensioner pulley.
12# Hook up brakes, decide where the pedal will be located and weld it in, and make linkage for it.
13# Find a suited mounting location for the throttle and choke cables, and mount them.
14# Decide how to do a shifter.
15# Run electronics, and find room for everything.
16# Adjustments.
17# Tweaks.
18# Year 2018 DONE!  bounce 


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What ya think? Steering wheel or handlebars?

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Not a whole lotta room for a dash lol

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And went over the front axles fluxcore welds with the TiG since we got more Argon for it.

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100% steering wheel
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
100% steering wheel

Yea I want that too, but where am I going to sit lol
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
100% steering wheel

Yea I want that too, but where am I going to sit lol
you can always move the wheel forwards, cut a half moon in the hood
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Thunderdivine wrote:
redlinemotorsportts wrote:
100% steering wheel

Yea I want that too, but where am I going to sit lol
you can always move the wheel forwards, cut a half moon in the hood

Ya it is already mooned  Razz 

Got alot done today:
Figured out how to do the steering column, adjusted and cut the hood hinges.
Started fab. on the steering column. - Had to re-locate some hoses on the engine aswell to get the hood low enough.

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Nope, I didn't stretch it  Razz 

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Also modified the NOS tank, with a filler neck. But didn't dare weld it yet, since the tank is thin steel and the neck is very thick.

After drilling some holes with a step drill bit.

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1 Hour Later....

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Got the Ackerman Arm Welded (TiG), this is the bottom arm of the steering column if you didn't already know.

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So yea  cheers 
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The sheet metal around the sides of the engine is going to be neat.
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mr.modified wrote:
The sheet metal around the sides of the engine is going to be neat.

Thanks, I hope so. And those are the reason why it needed to be so wide.

Started on some Grill design's, watcha ya'll think.  Question 

Without JD Logo, Notice the bottom hole is for the Oil Cooler.

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Close up,


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That looks awesome Smile
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Craftsman1998 wrote:
That looks awesome Smile

Thanks!

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Changes  Razz 

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Yeah i like that one more use that one
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Yeah i like that one more use that one

Aye!

I cut and tacked the steering column, was gonna have a slight tilt first, but i'll try and keep this simple i remembered  Razz 


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I think I'm tilting my steering, I didn't like the bar stool racer feel Razz looks like them bearings will do good.
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
I think I'm tilting my steering, I didn't like the bar stool racer feel :Plooks like them bearings will do good.

Will you tilt the actual steering wheel (That's normal) or will you use a u-joint and make a proper tilt?

I got cut parts for a proper tilt, but i can't be arsed with it atm. - I'll redo it if it bothers me, and it wont be barstool straight anyways.


I just luv the look of yours, think i've watched the video you posted 50 times, lol.
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
I think I'm tilting my steering, I didn't like the bar stool racer feel :Plooks like them bearings will do good.

Will you tilt the actual steering wheel (That's normal) or will you use a u-joint and make a proper tilt?

I got cut parts for a proper tilt, but i can't be arsed with it atm. - I'll redo it if it bothers me, and it wont be barstool straight anyways.


I just luv the look of yours, think i've watched the video you posted 50 times, lol.
Thanks! And I'll pick up a u-joint, some bushings will work for supporting it.
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LOL - And I doubt it'l be the last update, considering the amount of work left.

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I think I'm tilting my steering, I didn't like the bar stool racer feel :Plooks like them bearings will do good.

The bearings are from the front wheel hubs, they came with the 5/8" Bearings, but I use 3/4" size axels so these where leftover. I only use two, on the inside I'll use Bushings.  Razz


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Steering Column fab. Part 2.


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Once the column was done, a new question came up, how do i fasten it to the frame.
- Well I decided making a sort of a bolt down type towards the bottom. I also cut the frame so the column barely touches the engine,
this so I can have some tilt in the steering wheel.

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Grinded the curve so they weld up snuggly to the column.

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Welded (flux) tacked the two mounting tabs to the column.

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Then welded some more (TiG).
There is tons of ways of doing it, got the column welded up, looks like the steel from bmi OR our our supplier have lots of contaminaiton in it,
(well it can be that but it can be many things). Since i got some bubbles in the welds.

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One Tough Steering Column.

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I like the tilt in it, - Now I gotta decide how to do the top re-inforcement square tubing, many ways to do those to.
Tho I need to make sure they clear the engine, gas tank, oilfiller neck and rearfender.

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Also got some tiny square tubing (the one in the bottom left corner) but I wont trust that thickness as MAIN support.

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But it will be nice as a finnishing touch and to fab the dash and gas holders.

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I also widened the grill(the drawing), so it will directly bolt on to the hood thingy.

All this was a good days work, I started @ 10, went home just over 7. - Tho Thinking and Coffee took some time too, Until next time, Thanks 4 Watching!

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Nice. It would probably take me forever to make up a steering system and it still probably wouldn't be right. It's nice to work with clean new metal, I'm used to some bubbles (or worse) working with the cheap stuff that they use to make bed frames. Funny how you go along for a half inch with no problem, then you run into a bad spot and your weld is all messed up. I guess it just has to do with where the impurities end up when they form the metal.
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mr.modified wrote:
Nice. It would probably take me forever to make up a steering system and it still probably wouldn't be right. It's nice to work with clean new metal, I'm used to some bubbles (or worse) working with the cheap stuff that they use to make bed frames. Funny how you go along for a half inch with no problem, then you run into a bad spot and your weld is all messed up. I guess it just has to do with where the impurities end up when they form the metal.

Wether its new or not is beside the point, good quality steel is a blast to work with yea :p

When you TiG, and run into impurities it eats the wolfram tip up, so you have to re-grind it. (Thats Annoying).

But yeah,

New Video, mostly about Clutch design.


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Been thinking about Exhaust! Dual side pipes is a must! - for Sound,
but maybe not that good for the Engine, so I'm thinking of copying myself like i did on the craftsman Exhaust.



- Make a center pipe, maybe from the Square tubing that I used to build the CM frame and this one's Front axle, then let the side pipes protrude from the ends and down under the footboards. - Square tubing to get that sound, or rectangle tubing is probably the correct word for it, correct built it should cancel out the high pitched tones, giving me a low rumble!


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The Eagle has Landed! (Peerless 700 is bolted down).

I decided to just bolt it down today, hopefully it will fit quite well once i get the sprocket.

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1:1 mockup.

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looks like yer mini is gonna weigh as much as a full size one... ought ta be plenty strong though
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Lawren Wimberly wrote:
looks like yer mini is gonna weigh as much as a full size one... ought ta be plenty strong though

Yea it was tough on the back carrying the frame up and down the stairs today. - Not sure how much it will be once done.
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